國外QA問答·│·│↟：美國輸掉了朝鮮戰爭嗎₪│✘？
Did the United States lose the Korean war?
譯文簡介
美國輸掉了朝鮮戰爭嗎₪│✘？各國網友討論•▩╃·◕，關鍵是中國參戰了▩│₪↟│。
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美國輸掉了朝鮮戰爭嗎₪│✘？各國網友討論•▩╃·◕，關鍵是中國參戰了▩│₪↟│。
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The failure of the United States is not a military failure, but a strategic failure.In short, the Korean War and the Vietnam war are both examples of the ultimate failure of the United States' efforts to break the geographical balance in the cold war.In the Korean War, the lowest strategic goal of the United States has been achieved, South Korea has been preserved, and the border has basically returned to its pre war state. But according to MacArthur’s strategic plan, the Korean War was extended to northeast China and blockaded China's coastal areas. The U.S. military obviously failed to achieve MacArthur's strategy.
美國的失敗不是軍事上的失敗•▩╃·◕，而是戰略上的失敗▩│₪↟│。總之•▩╃·◕，朝鮮戰爭和越南戰爭都是因為美國想打破地緣政治平衡•▩╃·◕，最終失敗了▩│₪↟│。在朝鮮戰爭中•▩╃·◕，美國的基礎戰略目標得以實現•▩╃·◕，韓國得以保全•▩╃·◕，邊境也基本恢復到戰前狀態▩│₪↟│。但根據麥克阿瑟的戰略計劃•▩╃·◕，要將朝鮮戰爭擴大到中國東北•▩╃·◕，並封鎖中國沿海地區▩│₪↟│。美軍顯然未能實現麥克阿瑟的戰略▩│₪↟│。
美國在越南戰爭中是一個徹底的失敗者•▩╃·◕，這場戰爭毫無意義•▩╃·◕，除了在越南留下許多美國士兵的屍體•▩╃·◕，什麼也沒有得到▩│₪↟│。所有的失敗都是戰略決策的錯誤造成的▩│₪↟│。美國無法在朝鮮戰爭和越南戰爭中獲勝•▩╃·◕，因為它的對手不是朝鮮或越南•▩╃·◕，而是它們背後的蘇聯和中國▩│₪↟│。
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雙方實力其實差不多•▩╃·◕，幾次戰役不能決定勝負•▩╃·◕，只有消耗戰和持久戰才能決定勝負▩│₪↟│。但如果陷入消耗戰和持久戰•▩╃·◕，美國的後勤補給線就太長了•▩╃·◕，畢竟美國不是亞洲國家▩│₪↟│。最近一次失敗發生在阿富汗▩│₪↟│。美國軍隊已經在阿富汗作戰了20年▩│₪↟│。美國得到了什麼•▩╃·◕，士兵傷亡?鉅額軍費開支?
The initial intent of the US intervention was to defend South Korea from invasion from North Korea.That goal was met suggesting that Korea should be considered a “win” for the US and UN.After North Korean forces were driven out of South Korea, the US/UN made one of the great blunders in world history - it invaded North Korea. In so doing the US/UN forces drove northwards approaching the border with China despite warnings China would intervene. Worse it did so late in the year as the weather worsened reducing the US/UN main advantage over China - airpower.
美國干預的最初意圖是保護韓國不受朝鮮的入侵▩│₪↟│。這一目標已經實現•▩╃·◕，這表明韓國應該被視為美國和聯合國的“勝利”▩│₪↟│。在朝鮮軍隊被趕出韓國後•▩╃·◕，美國和聯合國犯了歷史上最大的錯誤——入侵朝鮮▩│₪↟│。美國和聯合國部隊不顧中國會干預的警告•▩╃·◕，向北逼近中國邊境▩│₪↟│。更糟糕的是•▩╃·◕，後來天氣惡化•▩╃·◕，削弱了美國/聯合國對中國的主要優勢——空中力量▩│₪↟│。
中國大規模介入•▩╃·◕，迫使美國和聯合國軍隊進入韓國▩│₪↟│。最終•▩╃·◕，隨著天氣好轉•▩╃·◕，中國軍隊被派往朝鮮•▩╃·◕，美軍在將中國軍隊趕回北方•▩╃·◕，靠近原來的朝鮮/韓國邊界後•▩╃·◕，美國/聯合國的前進就停止了▩│₪↟│。
結束戰爭的停火協議談判持續了兩年▩│₪↟│。越南被視為美國的損失•▩╃·◕，因為美國阻止北越接管南方的目標沒有實現▩│₪↟│。朝鮮戰爭可以被視為一場勝利•▩╃·◕，因為韓國被成功地保衛了•▩╃·◕，但應該被視為一場平局•▩╃·◕，因為朝鮮沒有解放•▩╃·◕，而朝鮮人民才是朝鮮戰爭的真正輸家▩│₪↟│。
USA didn’t lose the war. The war was only a Police action. The obxtive of the USA was to push the North Koreans back at the 38th parallel. But general MacArthur got cocky and pushed all up North to Yalu. MacArthur was warned by the way from the Chinese once the North Koreans were back at 38th line. Once the USA got far deep into China, China saw their opportunity to get involved. Once China started getting lucky with the retreats from the USA, China decided to to go ahead and escalate the war for their own selfish reasons. But in the end, the war ended with the border being at it’s original place.
美國沒有輸掉戰爭▩│₪↟│。這場戰爭只是一場的警察行動▩│₪↟│。美國的目標是把朝鮮逼回三八線▩│₪↟│。但是麥克阿瑟將軍太驕傲了•▩╃·◕，一路北上到了鴨綠江▩│₪↟│。當朝軍退回到38線時•▩╃·◕，中國警告麥克阿瑟不要繼續前進▩│₪↟│。但美國決定繼續深入•▩╃·◕，中國看到了參與其中的機會▩│₪↟│。後來隨著美軍的撤退•▩╃·◕，中國決定繼續前進•▩╃·◕，出於自私的原因升級了戰爭▩│₪↟│。但最終•▩╃·◕，戰爭以邊界恢復原狀而結束▩│₪↟│。
United States won because they were able to hold their trench lines along the 38th parallel despite an overwhelming force coming at them.
真正贏得戰爭的只有中國•╃◕▩、美國和韓國▩│₪↟│。中國贏得了戰爭•▩╃·◕，因為他們能夠保留一個緩衝區•▩╃·◕，即朝鮮•▩╃·◕，並且在蘇聯的大力支援下•▩╃·◕，他們的軍隊變得更加強大•▩╃·◕，使得戰後•▩╃·◕，入侵大陸變得不可能▩│₪↟│。美國贏了•▩╃·◕，因為儘管有壓倒性的兵力向他們逼近•▩╃·◕，他們仍能守住三八線沿線的戰壕▩│₪↟│。
韓國之所以獲勝•▩╃·◕，是因為他們從一支容易受到朝鮮侵略的弱軍•▩╃·◕，變成了一支能夠抵擋gczyq略的久經沙場的軍隊▩│₪↟│。韓國花了近10年時間才達到世界第一水平▩│₪↟│。直到今天•▩╃·◕，朝鮮仍深受戰爭後果的困擾▩│₪↟│。
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To reunify the Korean peninsula after the Chinese intervention would have required an economic and political commitment by the US that would have been highly unpopular. And the then current doctrine of “containment” was satisfied by the cease fire. There was also concern that the new Soviet nuclear capability could allow escalation to start a nuclear war.
在中國干預後•▩╃·◕，要實現朝鮮半島的統一•▩╃·◕，就需要美國做出經濟和政治承諾•▩╃·◕，而這將非常不得人心▩│₪↟│。停火協議滿足了當時流行的“遏制”原則▩│₪↟│。還有人擔心•▩╃·◕，蘇聯新的核能力可能會升級•▩╃·◕，引發一場核戰爭▩│₪↟│。
No, unlike Vietnam, the Korean War had an obxtive. Like the 1st Gulf War, push an invading aggressor out of the country they had invaded.MacArthur of course, decide his obxtive was to conquer North Korea as well, against the stated obxtives of the President, which drew the Chinese in, and very nearly cost the UN the war. MacArtur of course was fired, the original obxtive was again undertaken, and the war ultimately achieved the obxtive of throwing invading forces out of South Korea, then stop at, and hold at the 38th parallel.The stated obxtives of the UN and the multi nation coalition were achieved. MacArthur’s were not.
不像越南戰爭•▩╃·◕，朝鮮戰爭是有目標的▩│₪↟│。就像第一次海灣戰爭•▩╃·◕，把侵略者趕出他們所入侵的國家▩│₪↟│。麥克阿瑟的目標是征服朝鮮•▩╃·◕，這與總統的既定目標相反•▩╃·◕，導致中國介入•▩╃·◕，差點讓聯合國付出戰爭的代價▩│₪↟│。麥克阿瑟後來被革職了•▩╃·◕，最初的目標再次實現•▩╃·◕，戰爭最終達到了把入侵軍隊趕出韓國的目標•▩╃·◕，然後停在三八線▩│₪↟│。聯合國和多國聯盟的既定目標已經實現▩│₪↟│。麥克阿瑟則沒有▩│₪↟│。
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the United States didn’t lose the Korean war, as the primary goal of the United States was achieved, South Korea was defended. The border of North and South Korea that was set by the cease fire that was signed in 1953 was the same as it was before the war. When Kim Il Sung ordered the invasion of South Korea his goal was to take over the entire Korean peninsula he clearly failed to do that.After the bulk of the US forces arrived in theater- the North Koreans were pushed back and the Chinese entered to help Pyongyang out.If the Korean war had been a loss there would not be a South Korea. At worst it was a stalemate
美國沒有輸掉朝鮮戰爭•▩╃·◕，因為美國的主要目標實現了•▩╃·◕，韓國得到了保護▩│₪↟│。根據1953年簽署的停火協議•▩╃·◕，朝鮮和韓國的邊界與戰前一樣▩│₪↟│。當金日成下令入侵韓國時•▩╃·◕，他的目標是佔領整個朝鮮半島•▩╃·◕，他顯然沒有做到這一點▩│₪↟│。在大部分美軍抵達戰區後•▩╃·◕，朝鮮軍隊被擊退•▩╃·◕，中國軍隊進入來幫助平壤當局▩│₪↟│。如果朝鮮戰爭是一場失敗•▩╃·◕，就不會有韓國▩│₪↟│。在最壞的情況下•▩╃·◕，這是一個僵局▩│₪↟│。
The Korean people lost. There was a mutual desire for a united Korea; there was no mutual agreement on how to achieve the unification. The division of Korea and the Korean War was the product of the Cold War with the Koreans having a minimal voice.The US had an opportunity to test her new planes and her munitions; the US also had a chance to test the limits of communist containment.Korea was the first of many surrogate wars. In many of these surrogate wars, the people always lost.
朝韓人民輸了▩│₪↟│。雙方都希望朝鮮半島統一•▩╃·◕，對於如何實現統一•▩╃·◕，雙方沒有達成一致意見▩│₪↟│。朝鮮半島的分裂和朝鮮戰爭是冷戰的產物•▩╃·◕，朝鮮人的聲音不受重視•▩╃·◕，美國則有機會測試它的新飛機和彈藥▩│₪↟│。朝鮮戰爭是眾多代理戰爭中的一場▩│₪↟│。在許多代理戰爭中•▩╃·◕，人民總是最後的輸家▩│₪↟│。
The war is technically not over. The warring parties signed an armistice. To prevent a flare up leading to resumption of full scale war they have a demilitarised zone (DMZ).The USA didn't lose the war. It fought under the UN banner and it may be described as a stalemate. China fought to prevent UN forces from entering its territory and the point where the war was stalled, was the 38th parallel, that is 38 degrees latitude north. Land southwards became part of South Korea.
嚴格來說•▩╃·◕，戰爭還沒有結束▩│₪↟│。交戰各方簽署了停戰協定▩│₪↟│。為了防止爆發全面戰爭•▩╃·◕，他們設立了非軍事區▩│₪↟│。美國沒有輸掉戰爭▩│₪↟│。它在聯合國的旗幟下戰鬥•▩╃·◕，可以說是一場僵局▩│₪↟│。中國為阻止聯合國軍隊進入其領土而戰鬥•▩╃·◕，停戰點是北緯38度•▩╃·◕，而南方的土地成為韓國的一部分▩│₪↟│。
If the United States and its UN allies lost the Korean War then so did Communist China and its North Korean ally.If China and North Korea had won the Korean War, South Korea would no longer exist and no U.S. troops would have remained on the Korean Peninsula.However, South Korea clearly does exist and U.S. troops have remained on the Korean Peninsula in some strength since the end of the Korean War.]If North Korea had won the Korean War, North Korea would have successfully invaded South Korea and the South unified with the North. That did not happen.
如果美國和它的聯合國盟友輸掉了朝鮮戰爭•▩╃·◕，那麼中國和它的朝鮮盟友也輸了▩│₪↟│。如果中國和朝鮮贏得了朝鮮戰爭•▩╃·◕，韓國將不復存在•▩╃·◕，美國軍隊也不會留在朝鮮半島▩│₪↟│。然而•▩╃·◕，韓國顯然是存在的•▩╃·◕，自朝鮮戰爭結束以來•▩╃·◕，美國軍隊在朝鮮半島仍有一定規模▩│₪↟│。如果朝鮮贏得了朝鮮戰爭•▩╃·◕，朝鮮就會成功入侵韓國•▩╃·◕，韓國就會與朝鮮統一▩│₪↟│。但這並沒有發生▩│₪↟│。
如果中國贏得了朝鮮戰爭•▩╃·◕，那麼中國人民志願軍和它的盟友就會成功ruqin韓國•▩╃·◕，並將美軍永久逐出朝鮮半島▩│₪↟│。這種情況也沒有發生•▩╃·◕，朝鮮戰爭以它開始的方式結束了:陷入僵局▩│₪↟│。
When Truman deployed troops to Korea in 1950 the goal was to stop the North Korean invasion and push the North Koran Army back across the 38th Parallel. The North Korean Army was defeated and retreated across the Parallel. At that point the South Korean Army continued their pursuit across the Parallel with the intention of reuniting Korea under their government. MacArthur authorized the American forces to also continue their pursuit, changing the American goal without Truman’s permission. MacArthur also made some unfortunate comments about not stopping at the Yalu River and going on to liberate China from their new Communist government, using nukes if necessary.
當杜魯門在1950年向朝鮮部署軍隊時•▩╃·◕，目標是阻止朝鮮的入侵•▩╃·◕，並將朝鮮軍隊擊退到三八線對面▩│₪↟│。北朝鮮軍隊被擊敗•▩╃·◕，撤退過了三八線▩│₪↟│。而南朝鮮軍隊意圖統一朝鮮•▩╃·◕，麥克阿瑟授權美國軍隊繼續追擊•▩╃·◕，在沒有得到杜魯門允許的情況下改變了美國的目標▩│₪↟│。麥克阿瑟還發表了一些糟糕的演講•▩╃·◕，說他不會止步於鴨綠江•▩╃·◕，而是繼續從他們的gczy政府手中解放中國•▩╃·◕，必要時使用核武器▩│₪↟│。
中國對此感到震驚•▩╃·◕，並警告他們將進行干預•▩╃·◕，這是可以理解的▩│₪↟│。麥克阿瑟並沒有把他們當回事•▩╃·◕，所以後來在長津水庫被逮個正著▩│₪↟│。中國軍隊最終在美韓穩定三八線之前•▩╃·◕，將美韓軍隊趕回了三八線對面▩│₪↟│。此時杜魯門已經解除了麥克阿瑟的職務•▩╃·◕，他下令將防線保持在三八線•▩╃·◕，重新確立了美國維持韓國獨立的目標▩│₪↟│。最終透過談判達成的停火協議•▩╃·◕，並一直維持到今天▩│₪↟│。因此•▩╃·◕，美國實現了當初向韓國派兵的目標•▩╃·◕，而麥克阿瑟解放朝鮮(可能還有中國)的目標則沒有實現▩│₪↟│。
Since the North Korea attacked first, the US sent troops with the aim of containment. Push the North Koreans back over the 38th parallel. Although Gen MacArthur failed in taking North Korea as China got involved, the Truman administration had achieved their original UN obxtive of containing the domino effect and keeping South Korea free.An armistice was signed so you could technically say no one has failed yet.
由於朝鮮首先發動攻擊•▩╃·◕，美國派出軍隊以遏制朝鮮▩│₪↟│。把朝鮮逼回三八線那邊•▩╃·◕，儘管麥克阿瑟未能在中國介入的情況下拿下朝鮮•▩╃·◕，但杜魯門政府實現了他們在聯合國的最初目標——遏制gczy的多米諾骨牌效應•▩╃·◕，讓韓國保持自由▩│₪↟│。停戰協議已經簽署•▩╃·◕，所以嚴格來說•▩╃·◕，還沒有人失敗▩│₪↟│。
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Exactly USA won the Korean War.You ask this question for you misunderstand the basic goal of US.USA’s underscore is to keep military influence in Eastnorthern Asia rather to conquer the whole Korea.Basically USA achieved their goal ,though great loss.The losers of the Korean War are the USSR,N.Korea and S.Korea.The biggest winners are China and Japan.Basically the Korean War determines the rise of China and Japan after WW2 from political philosophy perspective.
沒錯•▩╃·◕，美國贏得了朝鮮戰爭▩│₪↟│。你問這個問題是因為你誤解了美國的基本目標▩│₪↟│。美國的重點是保持在東北亞的軍事影響力•▩╃·◕，而不是征服整個朝鮮▩│₪↟│。美國基本上實現了他們的目標•▩╃·◕，儘管損失很大▩│₪↟│。朝鮮戰爭的輸家是蘇聯•╃◕▩、朝鮮和韓國▩│₪↟│。最大的贏家是中國和日本▩│₪↟│。從政治經濟學角度看•▩╃·◕，朝鮮戰爭基本上決定了二戰後中日兩國的崛起▩│₪↟│。
From a tactical and obxtive percepective, no, it was a draw. However, from a long term strategic percepective, it was a huge defeat because the US showed the whole world their biggest weakness: unable to sustain casualties without suffering huge amount of political pressure from within the country. This will come back to haunt them in Vietnam and the Middle East.
從戰術和客觀角度來看•▩╃·◕，這是一場平局▩│₪↟│。然而•▩╃·◕，從長期的戰略角度來看•▩╃·◕，這是一次巨大的失敗•▩╃·◕，因為美國向全世界展示了他們最大的弱點:在傷亡持續時•▩╃·◕，無法承受來自國內的巨大政治壓力▩│₪↟│。在越南和中東•▩╃·◕，這點也一直困擾著他們▩│₪↟│。
More interesting: How could USA go from the good guy in WW2 to a force that massacred civilians in just a few years?
有趣的是:美國怎麼會在短短几年內從二戰中的好人變成屠殺平民的軍隊?
The USA did not lose the Korean War. The goal was containment of Communist expansion, not the conquest of North Korea, which the would have resulted in a full scale war with the Chinese.Legally there was no War because Congress did not declare war - it was a United Nation’s Police Action. Congress voted money for the action, but did not issue a declaration of war. The conclusion was a cease fire along the same border as before the war. North and South Korea are still at war with each other.
美國沒有輸掉朝鮮戰爭▩│₪↟│。其目標是遏制共產主義的擴張•▩╃·◕，而不是征服朝鮮•▩╃·◕，否則將導致與中國的全面戰爭▩│₪↟│。法律上沒有戰爭•▩╃·◕，因為國會沒有宣戰——這是聯合國的警察行動▩│₪↟│。國會投票支援這項行動•▩╃·◕，但沒有宣戰▩│₪↟│。最後•▩╃·◕，雙方在戰前的同一邊境線上停火•▩╃·◕，而現在朝鮮和韓國仍處於戰爭狀態▩│₪↟│。
Nobody lost and nobody won the Korean War. Technical the Korean War never ended.If you look on map of the two Koreas the last of the Cold War is still very much alive. .Alone the 38th Parallel that divides North Korea and South Korea .
朝鮮戰爭沒人輸•▩╃·◕，也沒人贏▩│₪↟│。從技術上講•▩╃·◕，朝鮮戰爭從未結束▩│₪↟│。如果你看看朝韓兩國的地圖•▩╃·◕，你會發現冷戰的餘波依然存在•▩╃·◕，三八線分隔朝鮮和韓國▩│₪↟│。
Every party lost the Korean War. They just made peace because continuing would have resulted in more loss. There were situation when the USA and its allies controlled most parts of the Korean peninsula. However that changed and so the finally decided to make 50 50
朝鮮戰爭各方都輸了▩│₪↟│。他們只是講和•▩╃·◕，因為繼續下去會導致更多的損失▩│₪↟│。美國及其盟友控制了朝鮮半島的大部分地區▩│₪↟│。然而•▩╃·◕，中國參戰後情況發生了變化•▩╃·◕，所以他們最終決定各佔一半▩│₪↟│。
The US commanding general was delusional.Technically it wasn’t the US’s war to lose - being a UN peacekeeping action - but in reality it was a US show - General MacArthur in charge of the UN forces which were predominately American.
The war wasn’t lost, but MacArthur’s overreach and unpredictability provoked an overwhelming Chinese response which turned a spectacularly successful campaign into a bloody, icy, heroic, fighting retreat against impossible odds ending, finally, almost 3 years later, in an ignominous stalemate - a ceasefire, pretty close to where it all began.
美國的指揮官有妄想症▩│₪↟│。嚴格說•▩╃·◕，美國不應該輸掉戰爭•▩╃·◕，看似是一場聯合國維和行動•▩╃·◕，但實際上這是一場美國的表演▩│₪↟│。麥克阿瑟將軍負責聯合國部隊•▩╃·◕，其中大部分是美國人▩│₪↟│。這場戰爭並沒有失敗•▩╃·◕，但麥克阿瑟的過度擴張和不可預測性引發了中國的反彈•▩╃·◕，將一場非常成功的戰役變成了一場血腥•╃◕▩、冰冷•╃◕▩、英勇的戰鬥撤退•▩╃·◕，最終•▩╃·◕，大約3年後•▩╃·◕，在一場僵局中結束——停火•▩╃·◕，非常接近一切開始的地方▩│₪↟│。
這場悲劇唯一的好處是•▩╃·◕，美國總統杜魯門拒絕了麥克阿瑟對中國人使用核武器的要求•▩╃·◕，並立即解僱了麥克阿瑟▩│₪↟│。拒絕冒險與中國和蘇聯發生核戰爭▩│₪↟│。
Both strategically and morally they lost all wars excepted WW2 that in any case saw their very late entry well after Russia had done the utmost to break the nazis .
在戰略上和道德上•▩╃·◕，美國都輸掉了所有的戰爭•▩╃·◕，除了二戰▩│₪↟│。無論如何•▩╃·◕，美國是在蘇聯竭盡全力擊潰納粹之後才參戰的▩│₪↟│。
No, as a matter of fact the U.S. won the Korean War. The obxtive of U.S./U.N. forces in Korea was to repel North Korea’s invasion of South Korea. Not only did they accomplish this, but the war ended with a net gain of territory for South Korea. The Korean War, along with the Gulf War of 1991, was the greatest post-World War II success for the U.S. Armed Forces, which overall have not done all that well since 1945. I think there is a tendency to underrate the performance of the U.S. Armed Forces in Korea and to overrate the post-1991 U.S. Armed Forces.
美國贏得了朝鮮戰爭▩│₪↟│。美國/聯合國的目標是擊退朝鮮對韓國的ruqin▩│₪↟│。他們不僅做到了這一點•▩╃·◕，而且戰爭結束時韓國獲得了淨領土▩│₪↟│。朝鮮戰爭和1991年的海灣戰爭是美國軍隊在二戰後取得的最偉大的勝利•▩╃·◕，自1945年以來•▩╃·◕，美國軍隊的總體表現一直不太好▩│₪↟│。我認為人們往往低估了駐韓美軍的表現•▩╃·◕，高估1991年後的美軍▩│₪↟│。
The Korean War ended in an armistice which is another way of saying that it ended in a draw. The U.S. did not want to get into a land war in Asia while we still considered Russia to be the main enemy. Our allies were still trying to recover from the effects of WWII so we would be, apart from the South Koreans, alone. The Chinese had seen the virtual destruction of the armies it had committed to Korea and did not want a major war destroy what they had only recently begun to rebuild in the homeland after the civil war with the Nationalist Chinese. The armistice was considered acceptable to both sides.
朝鮮戰爭以停戰協議結束•▩╃·◕，這是一場平局▩│₪↟│。美國認為俄國人是主要敵人的時候•▩╃·◕，美國不希望在亞洲陷入一場陸地戰爭▩│₪↟│。我們的盟友仍在努力從二戰的影響中恢復過來•▩╃·◕，所以除了韓國人•▩╃·◕，我們是孤獨的▩│₪↟│。中國眼看著派往朝鮮的軍隊幾乎被摧毀•▩╃·◕，不希望一場大戰爭摧毀他們在與國民黨內戰後剛剛開始重建的家園▩│₪↟│。所以雙方都認為停戰協定是可以接受的▩│₪↟│。
America didn't lose the Korean War, we didn't win it either. It was called a draw because a cease fire was called. I think the U.S was and could have won the war if China wouldn have sent in her troops. The U.S was almost all the way to the Chinese border after obliterating N. Korean defenses but hundreds of thousands or millions of Chinese Infantry poured into N. Korea and pushed the U.S back to the 38th parallel I think it is.
美國沒有輸掉朝鮮戰爭•▩╃·◕，中國也沒有贏▩│₪↟│。這被稱為平局•▩╃·◕，因為已經要求停火▩│₪↟│。美國本來可以贏得戰爭•▩╃·◕，在摧毀了朝鮮的防禦之後•▩╃·◕，美國快走到中國邊境了•▩╃·◕，但數十萬或數百萬的中國步兵湧入朝鮮•▩╃·◕，把美國逼回了三八線▩│₪↟│。
No they initially had won a huge victory. But when they got too close to the Chinese border (bringing China into the war) They were fought to a draw settling the border at the 38th parallel.
美軍一開始取得了巨大的勝利▩│₪↟│。但當他們太靠近中國邊境(把中國捲入戰爭)時•▩╃·◕，他們在38度線上打成了平局▩│₪↟│。
Actually, I think PRC DID win the Korean War. China, unlike the USSR, had nothing to do with the planning of North Korea’s invasion of South Korea. [The Soviet General Staff planned the war. The USSR provided all the vehicles, artillery, small arms and equipment, and significant training.] China had limited obxtives - protect its most valuable industrial area (Manchuria, the place where massive Japanese investment in the near past contrasted with wartime damage to the less well developed industrial areas of the rest of China). It tried to warn off the UN forces, but its warnings were ignored. The People’s Volunteer Army of Korea (a PLA force the size of a Western Army Group) was actually smaller than the UN forces, and it intervened to force the Eighth Army away from the border area.
實際上•▩╃·◕，我認為中國確實贏得了朝鮮戰爭▩│₪↟│。與蘇聯不同•▩╃·◕，中國與朝鮮ruqin韓國的計劃無關▩│₪↟│。蘇聯總參謀部策劃了這場戰爭•▩╃·◕，蘇聯提供了所有的車輛•╃◕▩、火炮•╃◕▩、小型武器和裝置•▩╃·◕，並提供了重要的培訓▩│₪↟│。中國的目標是有限的——保護其最有價值的工業區(東北•▩╃·◕，日本之前在那裡進行了大規模投資•▩╃·◕，與戰時對中國其他欠發達工業區的破壞形成了鮮明對比)▩│₪↟│。它試圖警告聯合國部隊•▩╃·◕，但其警告被忽視了▩│₪↟│。朝鮮人民志願軍(一支與西方集團軍規模相當的解放軍部隊)實際上比聯合國部隊規模小•▩╃·◕，它介入並迫使美軍離開了邊境地區▩│₪↟│。
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在這一點上•▩╃·◕，它取得了驚人的成功•▩╃·◕，取得了與歷史上偉大的裝甲部隊相同的前進速度•▩╃·◕，完全依靠步兵▩│₪↟│。它擊敗了大量全副武裝的聯合國部隊•▩╃·◕，包括消滅了一個美國陸軍師(倖存者失去了所有的車輛•╃◕▩、火炮和裝置)•▩╃·◕，並給美國海軍陸戰隊第一師帶來了歷史上最大的挑戰:被敵後7個師包圍▩│₪↟│。當聯合國軍撤離到原來的邊界對面•▩╃·◕，中國就開始了長期的防禦•▩╃·◕，直到達成停戰協議▩│₪↟│。
美國向朝鮮部署了一門13英寸的原子彈•▩╃·◕，以及B-29可投送原子彈▩│₪↟│。在這種情況下•▩╃·◕，朝鮮被迫同意停火•▩╃·◕，但雙方對這種情況有不同看法▩│₪↟│。中國認為它是在“勇敢地面對威脅”——美國認為它迫使中國讓步▩│₪↟│。事實上•▩╃·◕，真正具有決定性的事件是斯大林的死•▩╃·◕，而不是所謂的威脅▩│₪↟│。我想說的是•▩╃·◕，在中國自己看來•▩╃·◕，即使面對原子彈的威脅•▩╃·◕，中國也沒有退縮▩│₪↟│。如果說朝鮮戰爭有勝利者的話•▩╃·◕，那就是韓國(在幾乎被ruqin的情況下倖存下來)和中華人民共和國(至少在麥克阿瑟看來•▩╃·◕，中華人民共和國保護了東北不受攻擊)•▩╃·◕，而且在東北差點被侵略的時候•▩╃·◕，中國又把它的緩衝國拿了回來▩│₪↟│。你可能會把朝鮮也加到名單上——它確實倖存了下來•▩╃·◕，並且沒有為ruqin付出代價▩│₪↟│。但朝鮮人民遭受了太多的苦難•▩╃·◕，我拒絕稱這個國家是那場戰爭的“贏家"▩│₪↟│。
可以肯定的是•▩╃·◕，朝鮮不是美國的對手▩│₪↟│。一方面•▩╃·◕，儘管有米格戰鬥機和高射炮•▩╃·◕，美國空軍的轟炸機仍然統治著韓國的天空▩│₪↟│。美國甚至準備向朝鮮投擲一堆原子彈▩│₪↟│。除了由蘇聯和中國飛行員秘密駕駛的蘇聯戰鬥機外•▩╃·◕，朝鮮的空軍包括從雙翼飛機到米格15•▩╃·◕，所有這些飛機都是由缺乏訓練的飛行員駕駛的▩│₪↟│。而它的海軍是一個魚雷艇中隊▩│₪↟│。
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但朝鮮確實擁有一個近在咫尺的龐大盟友:紅色中國▩│₪↟│。中國以其壓倒性的地面優勢•▩╃·◕，讓這個兄弟的戰爭戛然而止▩│₪↟│。但戰爭雙方都沒有實現他們的戰略目標•▩╃·◕，沒有贏家▩│₪↟│。
First of all, it was because the Chinese truly believed that they were there to prevent a U.S. invasion and occupation of their homeland. During WWII the Japanese invaded China by first occupying Taiwan, then invading Korea, from there to the northern provinces of China, then pushed southward towards the rest of the country. In 1950 the U.S. appeared to repeat the same invasion path - first Taiwan, then Korea. The U.S. first told China that it would not cross the 38th parallel, it crossed it. Then it said it would not cross the 40th parallel, it crossed it. Then it said it would stop 40 miles away from the Yalu River, then it bombed it. By then China became convinced that the real target of the U.S. was China.
首先•▩╃·◕，這是因為中國人真的相信他們在那裡是為了防止美國入侵和佔領他們的家園▩│₪↟│。二戰期間•▩╃·◕，日本入侵中國•▩╃·◕，首先佔領檯灣•▩╃·◕，然後入侵朝鮮•▩╃·◕，從那裡到中國北部省份•▩╃·◕，然後向南推進到中國其他地區▩│₪↟│。1950年•▩╃·◕，美國似乎重複了同樣的入侵路徑——首先是臺灣•▩╃·◕，然後是朝鮮▩│₪↟│。美國首先告訴中國不會越過三八線•▩╃·◕，但後來越過了三八線▩│₪↟│。然後它說它不會穿過40度緯線•▩╃·◕，但它穿過了•▩╃·◕，然後它說它將在鴨綠江40英里外停靠•▩╃·◕，然後它就轟炸了鴨綠江▩│₪↟│。那時•▩╃·◕，中國確信美國的真正目標是中國▩│₪↟│。
另一方面•▩╃·◕，美國在那裡是為了“保護日本”▩│₪↟│。“警察行動”將在半年後完成•▩╃·◕，“回家過聖誕節”▩│₪↟│。你知道朝鮮和日本之間有一大片海洋•▩╃·◕，而中國沒有海軍•▩╃·◕，對吧?沒有人想為朝韓兩國捲入這場戰爭•▩╃·◕，因為坦率地說•▩╃·◕，朝韓兩國都是由混蛋統治的▩│₪↟│。jinzhengen(北韓)是發動侵略的混蛋•▩╃·◕，李承熙是犯下朝鮮歷史上最大的平民大屠殺罪行(保島聯盟大屠殺)的混蛋▩│₪↟│。10萬至20萬疑似朝鮮支持者及其全家•▩╃·◕，包括兒童•▩╃·◕，被殺害▩│₪↟│。
其次•▩╃·◕，這是因為中國希望擁有一支強大的軍隊•▩╃·◕，中國在與美軍的第一次戰鬥雲山戰役中取得了驚人的勝利•▩╃·◕，這讓他們有了獲勝的信心▩│₪↟│。中國軍隊會在戰鬥結束後撤退•▩╃·◕，再設定另一個伏擊•▩╃·◕，而美軍將撤退解釋為中國軍人軟弱▩│₪↟│。這一設想導致麥克阿瑟於在長津湖發起了“聖誕節回家”運動▩│₪↟│。後來•▩╃·◕，美軍兩次都被中國軍隊包圍▩│₪↟│。
這就引出了我的第三點-中國的將軍們戰鬥在第一線•▩╃·◕，而麥克阿瑟坐在日本▩│₪↟│。我想說•▩╃·◕，在雲山戰役的第一次遭遇之後•▩╃·◕，中國人分析了結果•▩╃·◕，意識到美國人沒有學過地理•▩╃·◕，但這對美國陸軍和海軍陸戰隊來說是不公平的▩│₪↟│。美國軍事史學家喜歡一本正經地說•▩╃·◕，這場戰役之後•▩╃·◕，中國軍隊“消失在深山中”▩│₪↟│。嗯•▩╃·◕，龐大的軍隊確實會消失•▩╃·◕，尤其是如果你坐在大洋彼岸的另一個國家!在隨後的兩場戰役中•▩╃·◕，中國軍隊憑藉小米加步槍•╃◕▩、簡易手榴彈•╃◕▩、簡陋的收音機和用雙腳奔跑的矮小士兵相互交流•▩╃·◕，成功地包圍了美軍▩│₪↟│。